28th September 2019 at 4:32 am #18500
Hi Im new. I have two hedgehogs visiting me almost nightly for approx 4 months since July 2019. I feel Im so lucky.
I have 5 cats who dont bother with them at all.
I have a large side room which has chairs in for my cats & recently I saw one of the hedgehogs asleep in there next to a large pot plant.
Ive just ordered a hedgehog house from Ebay
My question is this. Is it a good idea to place the new hedgehog house in the sideroom to protect them from the freezing winter?
Theres a dark quiet corner in there that would be suitable.
I live alone so there would be very little activity to bother them.
Or would they prefer it in the garden?
Im crazy about them so I have to do the right thing28th September 2019 at 1:38 pm #18505
Welcome to the Forum. Yes, you are lucky to have had hogs visiting!
I would put the hog house out in the garden. Hogs build a hibernaculum which is quite intricate and insulated so that they maintain the correct body temperature. That would be built inside the box. They don’t need to be too warm. Some people think they are sleeping during hibernation, but it isn’t really quite like that. Rather their bodily functions just all slow down, so that they don’t use up too much energy. It’s a clever way of surviving when their natural food sources (beetles, caterpillars, etc.) become less available in the cold weater.
So that if they become too warm, they might temporarily come out of hibernation, which might waste some of the energy they have put down in the form of fat. There are two types of fat (maybe think of them as a bit like fuel) one type keeps them ticking over and the other is to help them wake up and get going again after hibernation. So it’s important that none of this energy gets wasted.
Occasionally hogs will choose to hibernate in an open shed/garage. In effect, that is just like an extra large hog house – so not like a room attached to the house. Personally, I would try to avoid hogs coming into the house at all. They might hide away somewhere and get shut in by mistake. But they are just in general better off outside.
When you get your box, think very carefully about where you want to put it. (a shady quiet part of the garden). It’s best not to move them too much, because sometimes hogs need to think of them as ‘part of the landscape’ before they’ll use them. Other times they might take to them straight away, so you might be lucky. I would try to collect some suitable bedding and leave it near to the hog house. Most hogs prefer to do their own interior decoration, especially for hibernation nests. Maybe put a small amount inside to give them the idea, but let them build the rest. So, leaves (medium sized ones are best), long grasses, hay, etc.
Good luck. I hope you get a tenant for your box.9th October 2019 at 12:47 pm #18732
Hello again, Nic – and Hello Ziggysue.
I’m wondering what sort of prevailing temperature we need to be experiencing before hogs start to hibernate?
2-week weather forecast for around here predicts temperatures of 8 to 10 degrees C.9th October 2019 at 7:19 pm #18742
When the hogs decide to hibernate is a complex set of circumstances, which isn’t fully understood. It isn’t completely down to temperature, nor completely down to food availability, but probably a mixture of these and other things. i.e. for instance male hogs tend to hibernate a fair bit earlier than the females. They don’t have any hoglet duties like the females and so are able to put on the required levels of fat needed for hibernation earlier. I think some hogs, especially some males may already be hibernating.
The males also tend to return from hibernation earlier than the females. This is quite convenient for them as they have a bit of time to eat and put on some of the weight they’ve lost without the females around to be ‘courted’. Once the females are back, the males use up a huge amount of energy dashing around and then circling the females, rolling up other males, etc.
I usually find, here, that the males disappear first, then the females (once the hoglets are weaned) and then last the hoglets. The hoglets, in particular, can often still be around when there are frosts and don’t seem to mind too much.9th October 2019 at 8:10 pm #18745
We have a hedgehog coming into the garden at around 8pm, he goes in the hut, eats some food then sleeps in the hut till he leaves at 06:30am
I’m assuming this is normal and we are to keep feeding him and providing him, I suppose, somewhere to sleep at night.9th October 2019 at 8:52 pm #18749
I have 3 regular visitors, but they don’t show up until about 9.30pm at the earliest and they’re often still roaming the open space out the back of the houses at 1 to 2am. I don’t know if all 3 use the feeding station, but I do know that it gets more than one ‘visit’ overnight.
Thanks for your thoughts on timing for hibernations, Nic. I think I’ll wait for the cameras to be delivered (about 4 to 5 days time) before installing the house in the garden.10th October 2019 at 2:19 am #18756
My hedgehogs are visiting a lot earlier now – earliest not long after 7pm a couple of nights ago, and my camera picks up a hedgehog that comes back to my garden at around 6am, last saturday, she came back about 7.15am – which is just before sunrise.
And they are eating a lot more, – everything thing I put in their bowls get eaten, completely clean bowls, and everything that spills onto the floor also gets eaten, it’s been like this for about a week.
Also there is a hedgehog that’s chosen to hibernate in my hedgehog house, and has been in there for about two weeks now.
On colder nights, I leave a handful of straw in her tunnel, and the following night she brings it into her nest. Also I noticed some shredded newspaper, which I lined the floor with (but I didn’t shred,) so, she’s obviously been very
busy getting it just right.
At the moment, she’s my most frequent visitor, and eating most of the food. I asked a lecturer from a local wildlife college about it, and he thought she might be pregnant – I hope not, as the hoglets won’t have much chance of survival. (wierdly she doesn’t like wet dog food, but loves the spikes and webbox hedgehog food).
I haven’t seen any sign of Huffy since he got biffed by Klepto, nor have I seen Klepto. But it might be because they are male and perhaps have already started hibernating.
The fox is a regular visitor again, he comes every night. It concerns me greatly, but there’s not a lot I can do. I have sought advise from vets, from the wildlife college, from Pets at Home, but everyone just says the same, in that I can’t change the situation. No-one recommended putting fox deterrents down, apart from Pets at Home, so I’ll just leave it as unfortunately.10th October 2019 at 3:46 pm #18767
I thought my homemade hedgehog house was fairly waterproof but when I inspected it yesterday I discovered some of the hay inside near the top looked a bit damp and there were quite a lot of bugs in there, (along with a hedgehog which I was delighted about). I like the thought of the hedgehogs being warm and dry but I’m guessing that being wild animals a bit of dampness won’t do them any harm. Is that right?
He/she was buried underneath the hay so I’ve left it as is but I have put some more felt roofing over the top of it and secured with a brick.12th October 2019 at 12:10 am #18824
Sounds like it’s the best solution to put the felt on the top. Hopefully the damp doesn’t go down too far. It’s best not to keep looking into the box. Hogs build their nests to be good insulation. When they hibernate they need to maintain a fairly constant, if fairly low, temperature, which could be affected if the house is opened. The hog may be hibernating, in which case it’s lovely that it’s using the new hog house.
Fingers crossed all goes well with the hog. Good luck.13th October 2019 at 10:16 am #18870
Thanks Nic, now I know its occupied I will definitely leave it alone. Looks like my other house is occupied too as I’ve noticed bedding material has been dragged into the tunnel. Food is still being eaten so either there are more of them or they’re not fully asleep yet.13th October 2019 at 11:29 pm #18889
That’s really good if both boxes are being used! One or other of them, or even another hog might still be out and about. They don’t go to sleep, as such, it’s just that their metabolism slows right down during hibernation, so that they don’t need to eat. I would keep leaving food out until several days after the hogs have stopped eating it. Just in case another one turns up hoping for some food. It’s a good idea to leave water available all winter. Hogs sometimes come out of hibernation for short periods.
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